Showing posts with label discussion. Show all posts
Showing posts with label discussion. Show all posts

Wednesday, 13 November 2013

GOOGLE+ IS SLEEPING IN MY BED

Youtubers VS Google+
... was going to be the title, which then changed into "Google+  is sniffing my panties."
My, probably most controversial video so far, is now up on youtube.
If you haven't seen it yet, let me show you first, before I go on:

Now I rarely get political in my videos, and I've said that before, but I felt strongly enough about this topic that I created another video this week about it




A lot of people are really, I mean REALLY upset about the youtube comment changes now.

I've had private messages of viewers saying they find it just too confusing and until they understand it all they won' t comment. I am sure some others will stop using it and maybe switch to Vimeo or other video services.

Social interaction was the strong point of Youtube, and our social interaction has now become a kind of 'property' on Google+ to be shared constantly. If we wanted to share, we would have done it voluntarily, on our OTHER social networks.

But there is the other 'reason' for this. Google+ will now write great numbers in sharing and 'active users', but that is because we are forced to use it. That looks good on Google+, and they can finally claim to rival Facebook. That pulls in investors, commercial, more money. Also, the box for 'share on google plus' is always ticked, instead of giving us an option to opt in = more traffic for G+

Google+: Can I read your search history?

My friend Carol compared Google+ to the unpopular kid who will try everything to just play with the big guys like Facebook etc and now has really annoyed the whole crowd.
What we are told is that Google+ commenting has been implemented to keep abusive comments out.
What happens is that many many people post even more abusive comments and ascii art all over the walls. 

It's like a troll bonfire, with flame wars and fireworks, and all trolls dancing around. And they are right. Why? People are annoyed and with all those comments and inappropriate pictures, they are only showing the big guys that 'real names' are not stopping people from trolling. The trolls are angry and they are celebrating their anger. It's troll bonfire night.

GOOD thing that can happen: Google re-thinks its idea. I doubt we will get the old comment system back, but we will get an update, that we won't like either, but that might do things a liiiittle bit better.
BAD thing that could happen: we all need to supply our passport data, to verify our real name is 'really real'. Which means Google owns your most vulnerable, important data, alongside all the other information from your search history. That's intimate information, so you pretty much have to let Google+ into your bed. 

Google+ does not take a NO from it's users


Now there is to see, IF there will be a change over the next weeks.
Question is, what will kick off the change? 
Will the -daily growing- petition by Change.org convince Google to overthink their decision, or will the troll fire of abusive comments, ascii obscenities and scare links actually convice?
Google+ has so much power right now. And it will maybe first ask us nicely, but in the future might just decide to go in a 'my way on the highway' attitude, like it has now.

We can only wonder, if Google+ will ever take its users NO for an answer or just proceed to get cozy in our bed.

That's it for now on the topic guys.
Please stay in touch and don't loose faith in youtube just yet.

Tuesday, 12 November 2013

Why it feels like Google is sniffing my pants...


Youtubers going wild, hordes of abuse and even one of the early youtube founders hurling abuse at the new system: Youtube has integrated with Google + now 


Some people have managed to miss the whole darmalama, mainly because they already have a Google plus account, OR were asked to get one when they signed up for youtube.
I had to let Google + into my life yesterday, and the whole thing has upset me quite a bit, so let's make a little interview with my forced new housemate:
 
Cathy Kitty alias CanudoitCosplaygirl/Cat

Google+ the new unwanted housemate

 
CAT: WHY the change?

GOOGLE+: Weeeell, Youtube comments have been full of homophobia, racism, misogyny and the abyss of the human mind. Integrating it with Google Plus means that you are supposed to now comment with your "real" name and that is supposed to keep you from the trooololooools. 





CAT: Does Google + work and keep the trolls away? Because it seems to turn normal users away
It looks like it really doesn't help against trolls either. The change did set of hordes of abuse and flame walling, no matter what name you comment with - real or not.
Why do I have to live with Google plus as Youtuber? 


GOOGLE+: You have to use Google + because you want to answer your viewers. Even if you don't need another social platform. It looks like you've been given a choice, but you kind of haven't really.


CAT: Right. I've decided I will only take what I need from it and use it for youtube comments ONLY. Apart from that, I find the interface so confusing, that I don't even want to engage more in it. I mean circles? Aren't plus signs and circles from the game Noughts and Crosses? 





GOOGLE+: Cat, can I read your private letters?
 
Cat: There's always the issue of letting Google take all your information. Even though they claim they are big on internet security, you should NEVER forget that they own google maps, news, youtube, other services AND your search history. Joining Google plus, they will also have your private messages to friends and other people.


GOOGLE+: Cat, can I lie in your bed? Can I sniff your pants?
CAT: This brings Google to a level of closeness, that some people are obviously not comfortable with, and I totally understand that. If some people opt out of starting the system, I don't blame them. I just hope they will still in touch with my channel in their own way.



Why people you so upset again?
I'm personally upset because:
- We can't reply to comments older than the day of the change. They're classed as unactive, untouchable, un-replyable. I wasn't told that when I signed up.
- Some NEW comments I still can't reply to, and I don't see any reason for that
- comments are now placed in a random order of relevance, that I find condescending, and not at all "relevant" or "meaningful" like google advertised them to be
- I have now 3 names on my channel, because Google plus messed up. There's Canudoitcosplaygirl in all my video, but there's Cathy Kitty Cat on my recommendations and Canudoitcat on my channel page. That's confusing. I hope people know how to find me again.
- This will turn some people away from youtube. Fact. Social interaction was youtube's strongest point and those who don't want Google shoved down their throats, will turn away from it.

- It has't stopped the trolls really. It actually feels like getting trolled.



More about this will be up on my video in a few hours (unless it gets banned or taken down because it could be seen as offensive?)
Maybe it will all work out great, and maybe google plus is not storing all our data, and maybe I will actually have a day when I enjoy their set up and understand what it is REALLY good for, but I haven't reached that day yet. That doesn't mean I can't be convinced. But right now, I don't like my new housemate. Why?

It feels  more like you have to do things for Google+ than the other way around.

Here's a link to what the Guardian wrote about the topic.
There's also a Petition on Change.org which is growing by the minute.

Love and Peace
x
Cat